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The China CEO Gift-Giving Scam

Friday, March 12th, 2010

Municipality of Tianjin
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I was recently contacted by Eric Vermaas, the CEO of PT Team Wood (www.teamwood.org), a Dutch-Indonesian timber and furniture partnership based in Jakarta, to run a background check on an Import Export company based in Tianjin, China, and which had just placed an order for $915,000 USD in speciality wood furnishings.

Fortunately, for Eric I just happened to be in Tianjin at the time, as I was visiting family for the Mid-Autumn Festival, one of the two main traditional festivals along with Chinese New Year, and therefore checking them out was a fairly simple process for me.

The Chinese company details are as follows:

Tianjin Tanbo Import & Export Trade Co., Ltd.,

Address:

43 Nanjing Road, Heping District,

300350, Tianjin, China

Web: www.sjzdingsheng.com.cn

Tel: + 86 228 143 92 09

Fax: + 86 400 67 61 100 ext 1010

Email: heiyexingguang8@126.com, tanbo_2003@yeah.net

Trade Manager: Chen Jinliang

I quickly discovered that telephone number is not a land line, and is actually a mobile number known as a xiao ling tong, and which looks like a land-line number, can’t be easily traced, and is very cheap to buy.

The fax number isn’t in Tianjin and seems to be out of town, and is perhaps a fax service somewhere, hence the extension number; quite probably a big room in a cheap building with a number of fax machines in it – linked to a PBX if the extension number is anything to go by.

I visited the address provided on the website and discovered that it doesn’t actually exist. Basically the numbers on that street jump from number 35 to number 57 Nanjing Road, with nothing but an abandoned construction site between these two numbers, and therefore no sign of number 43.

Of course, all of this seemed somewhat suspicious at best, particularly more so since I further determined that they allegedly scammed a businessperson from Europe out of 8,000 Euros on or about the 22nd or 23rd of September 2009 (you can find the details here), and have also placed large orders with several other companies, in one case up to $600,000 USD in value, and all since the 31st August 2009.

I further discovered that Tianjin Tanbo Import & Export Trade Co., Ltd., also operate under the name of Hebei Dingsheng Import & Export Company, and have the same non-existent address.

In consequence to all of the above I strongly advised PT Team Wood to have nothing whatsoever to do with this “company“.

Tianjin Tanbo also failed to respond to my repeated phone calls or emails. Particularly when once they realised they had Chinese speakers, currently resident in China, on their tails. The only call we had, and which I instigated, was brief, and led to their prevarication and a lot of stuttering, particularly when I asked for their address, and they said it was the same as the website – to which I responded that I’d been to visit the location, and it didn’t exist. Whereupon they responded that they’d just recently moved. How convenient and how odd they’d forgotten to mention this when first asked, or even to update their website.

Finally, I asked them to have a senior executive call me back, and have had no response in the three days since that call – and neither do I expect one.

The CEO Gift Scam Works in the Following Manner:

1. The scammer places a large order with you.

2. They then invite you to China to finalise the contract.

3. When you arrive, they will tell you that in traditional Chinese business culture you should buy the CEO a gift commensurate with his position. This in the case of the last person I found scammed by them was for gold bars worth 8,000 Euros.

4. After you have signed the contract and returned home, they then contact you again and tell you the contracts must be translated and stamped and sealed by a notary, and that the fee for this is 1,350 Euros or something of the type.

5. If you pay that then the next step would be for them to cease contact with you, as they are in no way interested in a purchase.

Gift-Giving In China

Gift-giving in China is common in business, but a bottle of wine or a treat from your own country is usually more than acceptable, and I know of no CEO who would expect me to buy them anything expensive. Moreover, since you are a foreigner you’re usually expected to be ignorant of gift-giving in China, and so are exempt from this. Most gifts between Chinese businessmen are cigarettes, Chinese white spirits (baijiu – a strong clear alcohol), or a good tea; certainly never in the form of gold bars, unless you have plans on bribing your way into a contract.

In conclusion, and as a rule of thumb, you should never feel obliged to buy anybody any kind of gift in China during the pursuance of your business interactions. However, out of politeness, a small gift of not-too-great an expense from your own country or culture will be gratefully received and appreciated.

Safe Trading!

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Looking To Source USB Memory Sticks From China?

Friday, March 5th, 2010

Not All USB Memory Sticks Are The Same.

Would You Like Your Own Logo On Your USB?

Would You Like Your Own Logo On Your USB?

There are more than one kind of USB on the market, as perhaps you’ve noticed, they come in all shapes, colours, and sizes, and some of them even have extra functions.

Your China Trading Partner can bring you into contact with a wide range of suppliers of USB Memory Stcicks, able to meet all your price and quality criteria, whilst ensuring you’re trading with a safe company.

Whether you’re looking for 256MB, 512MB, 1GB, 2GB, 4GB, 8GB, or 16GB, we can find you what you need amongst our list of suppliers here in China.

Additionally, if you want a corporate logo on your USB sticks we can help you with that too.

You can have single colour, as in the image to the right, or multi-colour, the choice is yours.

You may discover that having your own logo on your USBs is a lot cheaper than you at first thought.

How about aluminium or steel cased USBs?

How about aluminium or steel cased USBs?

How about aluminium or steel cased USBs for that extra look of class and style?

What about biometric fingerprinting technology in your USB sticks?

Would your clients such as lawyers, accountants, hospitals, insurance companies, and government departments find the extra security of fingerprint scanning technology built into their USB memory stick of value?

Biometric fingerprint USB systems are extremely quick and accurate, and can hold several thumb prints, so that in the event of an emergency, another person with predefined permission may access the data on the stick.

What about biometric fingerprinting technology in your USB sticks?

What about biometric fingerprinting technology in your USB sticks?

In this day and age, security is of vital importance. Have we not often heard of times when sensitive data has been lost, and suddenly turns up in the press, after an ordinary USB stick has been found on the train where it was first lost. Your company and your clients could be saved from a lot of embarrassment if they utilised such excellent technology.

Again Your China Trading Partner can provide you with all you want in that area too.

If you’re interested in knowing more then just drop us an email to discuss your needs.

Trade Safely!

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SafelySourcingChina.Com Is Launched

Wednesday, March 3rd, 2010

The More Things Change, The More They Stay The Same – When Is A Blog Not A Blog?

Well, I decided that although I like the look of the blog here at yourchinatradingpartner.com/blog, and that WordPress has a great deal to say for itself, as a very manageable blogging tool; I just felt it was a wee bit slow.

I mean, you come to the YourChinaTradingPartner.Com page, and you get a very nice fast load. However, when you drop down a directory into the blog, I found it to very often take a monumentally long time to load the page, and it was driving me nuts.

So, to solve the problem, and generate a lot of new work for myself, I built an HTML version of the blog, and slapped it on its’ own host at www.SafelySourcingChina.com.

Of course, this has presented me, the novice, with certain issues, such as how to make an RSS feed of my new HTML version of the blog.

However, after a little searching I managed to find a way of doing it which suits me down to the ground. Indeed, once I’d organised my RSS, I then went and tried feeding it to FeedBurner, and it went through far more smoothly than the horror story that was my feeds, here on the blog, just a week ago, when i had to hire someone to sort it out for me.

CLICK! and I was done. I couldn’t believe how easy it was.

I’ll continue to post here, but I’ll also post the material on the new blog too, for those who prefer a speedier, if less glossy, access portal to my stuff.

If anyone’s interested in how to set up an RSS feed for their blog, then I suggest you simply go where I went, and all will be made clear.

Here’s the link: rapidfeeds.com

By the way, I just tried putting the annimated feed link bar in here from FeedBurner, but WordPress just wouldn’t have it, and I’ve had to rewrite, and delete this article 4 times to try and dump the scramble of code left here.

I like the UTILITY of WordPress, but I prefer the ease and speed of HTML. For me, WordPress has presented me with a number of issues, a few of which are still unresolved.

That’s it for now, folks.

UPDATE

I managed to get an HTML blog sorted quite nicely, but found updating feeds to be a bit of a drag, and so finally decided to move the WordPress version of the blog here, as you can now see, and have probably noted.

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A Comprehensive Source of China Links

Tuesday, March 2nd, 2010

Possibly The Most Comprehensive Listing Of China Governmental And Non-Governmental Info-Sources.

When embarking on trading with China, both you and your company need as much top-level information as possible, and it should be equally wide in scope and readily available at the click of a mouse at any time, day or night.

And that’s where a small family-run product sourcing and due diligence company in Beijing, are seemingly outstripping their larger competitors, by presenting quite possibly one of the most comprehensive sources of information and links to Chinese governmental and non-governmental information sites of interest and information, with particular emphasis on due diligence and trading safely with China; all readily available in one place, and at the click of the mouse, for foreign businesses, traders, and entrepreneurs on the internet.

YCTP China Trading Links

YCTP China Trading Links

This small company is saving a lot of people a lot of hard footslogging, or better said – key tapping – by opening to the public their own carefully garnered resources to the public domain.

Indeed, they even outstrip companies such as Alibaba with the comprehensive and ‘all-in-one-place’ format of their links – literally at your fingertips.

Indeed, there are many pages offering information on the internet regarding product sourcing, due diligence, background checking, and lodging formal complaints with governmental or voluntary agencies. However, few sites offer such a broad and comprehensive range of informational links to relevant and pertinent Chinese authorities and government sanctioned trade and commerce sites, where you can find connections to genuine Chinese businesses who have registered themselves with governmental authorities. This in and of itself doesn’t necessarily make these businesses one-hundred percent genuine or risk-free. However, it certainly does minimise the risk of being scammed.

Sectional headings on the links page at www.yourchinatradingpartner.com include – China Business Resources: the links in this section cover a variety of journals and blogs appertaining to trading with China and are replete with useful information, inside tips, news, data, and current trends.

In the China Government Business resources section there are a string of excellent links to The Ministry of Commerce to the Peoples Republic of China (national) and its’ associated forums and complaints sections. In the Invest in China – Government Website section you can confirm the validity, or determine whether a company is legally registered in China. However, it currently only deals with those companies who have joined voluntarily and/or are foreign/Sino joint ventures.

In The Local Administration for Industry and Commerce Section you can check local branches of The Ministry of Commerce to the Peoples Republic of China to determine the validity of a business and whether or not it is a legally registered entity.

Other sections include links to the Bureau of Fair Trade for Imports and Exports, Department of Foreign Investment Administration, and the World Importers Net (Ministry of Commerce PRC), which is a trade promotion website under MOFCOM Public Information Service (MPIS), aiming at promoting international trade by providing both Chinese and overseas companies with trade information. It is an important part of the China national public information service system for international trade and economic cooperation, and is funded by the Chinese government; all services provided are free of charge.

Further very useful sites linked to by YCTP are the Department of Foreign Trade, China Customs & Excise, and The Mediation Centre of the China Council for the Promotion of International Trade; where if something goes wrong with your transaction, and you have already tried to contact your Chinese business partner to resolve the issue without success, then you can refer your case to arbitration.

Another interesting and useful link is to the Trademark Office – State Administration for Industry and Commerce (CTMO); which department performs the registration and administration of trademarks nationwide.

CIETAC is now one of the busiest arbitration centres in the world.

CIETAC is now one of the busiest arbitration centres in the world.

Another immensely useful site is The China International Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission (CIETAC) which is the most important and permanent arbitration institution in China. Formerly known as the Foreign Trade Arbitration Commission, the CIETAC was set up in April 1956 under the China Council for the Promotion of International Trade (CCPIT) to meet the needs of the continuing development of China’s economic and trade relations with foreign countries after the adoption of the “reform and opening-up” policy, the Foreign Trade Arbitration Commission was renamed as the Foreign Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission in 1980, and then finally settled down as the China International Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission in 1988. Since 2000, the CIETAC is also known as the Arbitration Court of the China Chamber of International Commerce (CCOIC).

The CIETAC independently and impartially resolves economic and trade disputes by means of arbitration and conciliation (mediation).

The CIETAC’s headquarters is located in Beijing with two sub-commissions in Shanghai and Shenzhen, respectively known as the CIETAC Shanghai Sub-Commission and the CIETAC South China Sub-Commission. In order to meet the needs of the development of the arbitration practices, the CIETAC also successively established 19 liaison offices in different regions and specific business sectors to provide parties with handy arbitration advice.

After nearly 50 years of continuous endeavour, the CIETAC is now one of the busiest arbitration centres in the world. With its arbitration practices and academic activities, the CIETAC has also made great contributions to the legislation of the Chinese arbitration law and the development of the arbitration practice in China. Not only does CIETAC maintain positive relations and cooperation with all the major arbitration institutions throughout the world, it also upholds a respectable reputation at home and abroad for its independence, impartiality and efficiency.

YCTP also include an introduction to CHINA – THE LAW; which although not exhaustive does direct readers to General Principals of the Civil Law of the People’s Republic of China, Model Arbitration Clause for Contracts with Chinese Companies, and The Ministry of Public Security of the P. R. China Information Network & Security, which deals more specifically with cyber-fraud, or cyber-crime.

Additional links included are those for government run or sanctioned trade links and resources, such as: China Commodity Net (CCN), which is funded by the Chinese government. China Commodity Net (CCN) is one of MOFCOM’s Public Information Service (MPIS) projects. As an important part of China national public information service system for international trade and economic co-operation, CCN aims to enhance cooperation and trade between the Chinese and overseas enterprises.

Other trade links include BizMatching – A government run and approved (Ministry of Commerce) trade portal, and China Market; this is a business portal recommended by the Chinese government.

In all, Your China Trading Partner provide a fascinating, deeply informative, and educational collection of links, which will prove to be an extremely valuable resource for any company, large or small, or any individual wishing to trade securely and successfully with China.

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China – The New Electronic Goods Workshop Of The World

Monday, March 1st, 2010

China has rapidly become known as the world’s largest manufacturer of consumer electronics. Currently China produces more MP3 and 4 players, digital video cameras, digital photographic cameras, DVD and other video players, a vast array of electronic gadgets, and an extremely wide array of other high tech products, than can be found being produced in any other country in the world today.

Indeed, it wouldn’t be going too far to call China the “New Workshop of the World”, a role once filled by the UK during the industrial revolution, and now being successfully filled by China in it’s modernisation and technological revolution.

To that end there should be a question on the lips of every business person operating in any field which necessitates the need to purchase and sell any of the above listed product types.

What is that question?

It is this: How can I successfully and safely source these products from China to benefit my business by lower costs, and simultaneously increasing my profits?

If you haven’t asked yourself this question, then you are seriously missing out on a great opportunity.

Never The Leader, Always The Follower

China currently produces products of which you are seriously unaware, and which others will lead into Western markets in the future, due in large part to their foresight, and your failure to participate in the search for new products for your market.

You, along with the vast majority of SMEs, will have the unenviable task of jumping on another bandwagon, and playing catch-up.

Get ahead of the competition, and stop riding on other peoples’ coat tails.

What has happened to the world of sales in the past 30 years?

Honestly, it’s like everybody simply waits for a new occurrence in the market, and then jumps on it, rides it till they’ve ridden it to death, and then sit on their hands and wait for the next trend to come along.

Wimps!

There seem to be very few gutsy people in sales today. However, those there are, those who start the trends, are the ones who profit most, whilst the rest of you come and pick and fight over the scraps.

Get a grip people!

Use your brain, and a sourcing agent, and find yourself the next hottest thing to hit the market, before it hits the market!

Product sourcing agents in China speak English, and very often are native English speakers who’ve been living and working in China for a number of years, such as myself, and we can help you find what you need. Having us look for you costs nothing. When you choose to order you’ll find the same standard of service you’re used to at home in Europe or the US.

But What About Shipping?

And? What about it? UPS and DHL can handle all the logistics of bringing your goods to your door. Open a company account with them, give the account number to your agent, your agent passes it on to the supplier, the supplier contacts the courier, the courier arrives and picks up the goods, and you pay the shipping costs.

Of course, if you’re ordering in volume, then we can assist you in finding a suitable shipping company (air or sea) to handle your goods for you.

That’s it. Done and dusted!

What about MOQs?

What about them? Yes, there is often a minimum order quantity, but many companies have brought down their MOQs to levels that are very acceptable for SMEs; particularly in the fields of electronic goods – many as low as 20 pieces or even less.

What About Payment?

Well, I certainly don’t advocate the use of PayPal or Western Union, as these are the tools of the devil (scammers).

No, you can use a Letter of Credit (L/C), or a TT; the former will be agreed to by any good business of sound standing, whilst the latter may be used only after having the company visited, and having due diligence performed on them, to ensure that they’re actually who they say they are.

Of course, the obvious point is never to pay money into a personal account when dealing with a manufacturing business. That’s just silly.

As your relationship with your agent and suppliers develops, you can rest easy and know that you are in the hands of people whose business relies heavily on your goodwill and peace of mind.

Now, stop sitting on your hands like a baby, and get out there and source the market for something new and innovative, and which will allow you to start a trend, set a fashion, break a market, and lead the way to wider profits and renown for yourself and your company.

Trade Safely!

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What Can Happen If You Lose On A Deal In China?

Sunday, February 28th, 2010

What Can You Expect To Pay For CIETAC To Arbitrate For You, Should You Lose On A Deal In China?.

So, you lost out, and were skinned and scammed by a company in China, and now you want to go to arbitration to get back what you’ve lost, as well as getting some justice from the “evil doers“, as Mr. Bush might say. So, what’s it going to cost you?

Well, the following is the CIETAC fee schedule for their arbitration services, which I’ve converted, as near as possible, to the corresponding USD values.

Now, remember, when you choose to go into arbitration you agree to abide by the arbitral outcome. That is to say, that should the judgement go against you then all of the following monies tabulated below, will be lost to you on-top of your actual current losses. And don’t go confusing Western Jurisprudence with that of China; it may very well go against you. Remember, this is another risk.

As clearly stated beyond the main table, there may be further “…arbitration fee(s) according to this Arbitration Fee Schedule, the CIETAC or its Sub-commission may collect other extra, reasonable and actual expenses pursuant to the relevant provisions of the Arbitration Rules.” Meaning, that whatever you’re charged in the initial schedule may also include further fees levied to your account to the value of 1,500 USD per additional charge, per additional “…reasonable and actual expenses pursuant to the relevant provisions of the Arbitration Rules.”

Of course, even should you win, the defendant may still hold you up by delaying payment for a variety of reasons, and causing you to resort to CIETAC again, at further expense, which you will then have to get CIETAC to levy back against the defendant. Or, of course, they may just shut up shop and disappear. This kind of tactic wouldn’t necessarily be unusual.

Now, let’s just take a look at a bare-bones example, without the extra fees, and see what we’re talking about here.

We’ll take the lowest level in the schedule as an example, and this is just waving the stick a little, to get an idea of how things could go.

So, you lost $150,000 to a company somewhere in some province, in China.

You go to CIETAC, and before anything happens (and at this point I think it only fitting to mention that there is about a 9 month backlog with CIETAC) you are charged a fee of $5,250, plus the $1,500 registration fee, which is charged at all levels. Therefore, you’re current total is now $6,750, and you’ve just finished the registration process alone.

Then there will be charges for phone calls, letters, and transport costs for an examiner to visit the defendant or their place of business, hotel costs, living cost etc.

So, let’s just consider transport, living, interview, and visitation costs.

Let’s just call that another $3,000, and remain in the conservative area of things. That would bring you up to around the $9,750 mark. Then there’ll be the weeks and months of back and forth, hither and thither, as nothing in this vein happens either quickly or directly in China.

In the meantime, you may see your charges rise by another $3,000, before you even get close to an arbitral decision; and by which time you will have shelled out, on top of your $150,000 loss, another $12,750, and you’ll be sweating and hoping it all goes your way, or else you’ve lost your initial loss of $150,000 plus another $12,750.

So, are you shaking in your boots? Quivering with anger and frustration?

You should be!

Before I present you with the CIETAC arbitration fee schedule, allow me to tell you that there’s another way around this, and that is – PREVENTION.

Your China Trading Partner

Your China Trading Partner

Very simply, you can contact us at Your China Trading Partner, and we’ll make a factory visit, do your Due Diligence, and arrange for your goods to be checked before leaving port.

For us to go visit the factory, and to have your goods checked at port before shipping, will cost you approximately another $850 to $1,000 on top of your costs; whilst of course, on our factory visit we’ll get your supplier to agree to the insertion of the CIETAC Arbitration Clause in your joint contract, and which states:

“Any dispute arising from or in connection with this Contract shall be submitted to China International Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission for arbitration which shall be conducted in accordance with the Commission’s arbitration rules in effect at the time of applying for arbitration. The arbitral award is final and binding upon both parties.”

And thereby, offer you a little extra protection; additionally, of course, you can include in the terms of your L/C, that monies will not be released until goods have passed random quality checking, at their exit port prior to shipping.

Now, here’s a final question for you, before I introduce you to that fee schedule.

Doesn’t it make a lot more sense to spend another $850 to $1,000 on top of your costs, as insurance against the nightmare of losing your investment, and then having to go to arbitration with CIETAC?

I’m a little tired of hearing about all these losses, when I know that even if they can’t be completely dissolved, they can, at the very least, be seriously mitigated.

But, we live in a cost-cutting global mentality, and have done since the Thatcher and Reagan years; and people are silly enough to even cut costs on their insurance and investment security.

This is precisely the kind of mentality that makes dollars for the scammers, and no cents to me? Does it make cents to you?

Get the pun?

Now Here’s That Fee Schedule for you.

China International Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission

ARBITRATION FEE SCHEDULE

(This fee schedule applies to the arbitration cases accepted under Item 1 and 2 of Article 3 of the Arbitration Rules, and becomes effective on May 1, 2005)

Amount of Claim (USD).

Amount of Fee (USD).

150,000 USD or less.

 3.5% of the Claimed Amount, minimum 1,500 USD.

150,000 USD to 750,000 USD.

5,000 USD plus 2.5% of the amount above 150,000 USD.

750,000 USD to 1,500,000 USD.

19,750 USD plus 1.5% of the amount above 750,000 USD.

1,500,00 USD to 7,500,000 USD.

30,700 USD plus 1% of the amount above 1,500,000 USD.

7,500,000 USD or more.

90,000 USD plus 0.5% of the amount above 7,500,000 USD.

Each case, when being accepted, shall be charged an additional amount of $1,500 as a Registration Fee which includes the expenses for examining the application for arbitration, initiating the arbitration proceedings, computerizing management and filing the documents.

Where the amount of the claim is not ascertained at the time when application for arbitration is handed in, or there exists special circumstances, the amount of arbitration fee shall be determined by the secretariat of the CIETAC or its Sub-Commission.

Apart from charging arbitration fee according to this Arbitration Fee Schedule, the CIETAC or its Sub-commission may collect other extra, reasonable and actual expenses pursuant to the relevant provisions of the Arbitration Rules.

Safe Trading!

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Trading Safely With China

Saturday, February 27th, 2010

How To Trade Safely With China.

You want to trade with China, but you don’t feel safe. So what’s new?

Trading with China can be a very profitable way to do business, particularly for the small business or entrepreneur.

Beware Of The Dragon In The Machine!

Beware Of The Dragon In The Machine!

However, the safety of your transaction, and the possibility that you may, sooner rather than later, be a victim of cyber-fraud should be something which worries you very much, as is evidenced by the rise of cyber-fraud between China and the west in recent years. This eventuality is evident all over the internet on BBs and trade-sites where people are lodging their impotent complaints of having lost to the cheats of China.

There are, however, steps you can take to ensure the safety of your transactions, and to seriously mitigate your risk. The following information could help you save your investment, heartache, stress, and the personal shame and embarrassment – all of which will accompany such a loss.

So, what does a Chinese scam look like? What form does it take?

Well, before I go into this in any depth allow me to say that the majority of people out there attempting to trade with China seriously need to reconsider their approach in recognising or determining with whom they are dealing.

The Internet Is A Petrie Dish For Scammers!

The Internet Is A Petrie Dish For Scammers!

The one thing all of us should be aware of, is that the internet is infested with scammers in the same way that a homeless dog is infested with fleas; it’s an electronic Petri dish which breeds scammers on a vast and multitudinous scale.

Indeed, it would not be short of the mark to say that the internet is the most dangerous place to perform business.

Therefore, the first thing you need to understand is that the people who are going to scam you are very savvy and clever, running highly organised schemes of mass deception, which have been carefully designed and implemented to trick and mislead you. These people are professionals at what they do. And their systems become more highly tuned with every successful scam, as they learn from their experience as they go along.

Over the years I’ve read a lot of hard-luck stories written by victims and posted broadly across the internet. Sadly the majority of them leave me with a “Huh?” of disbelief at their naiveté.

Here’s what the scammer knows:

  1. There is always someone wanting products cheaply; even more so in the current financial climate.
  2. “If you build it, he will come” If they build a website offering incredible prices, then people will visit.
  3. If you like the incredible price you will email.
  4. S/he knows that a little polite conversation on MSN will further reel you in.
  5. They know and understand that the medium in which these frauds and deceptions take place is called the World Wide Web; and just like a real spider’s web, the spider (the scammer) patiently lies in wait for the flies (which is you).
  6. S/he knows that the law of averages is on their side, and not on yours.
  7. They know that they live in a hugely populous nation laden with heavy bureaucracy, and that chasing them up will be almost impossible for you.
  8. They know that it is easy for them to disappear, and setup the same web of deceit again elsewhere.
  9. They know and understand desperation.
  10. Lastly, they know that you want something for nothing (or at least at a ridiculously cheap price) – and so they give you nothing for something.

All of the above gives them a massive sense of self-confidence, and which in itself, provides them with more backbone than you could imagine.

Here’s what you know:

  1. Wow! This is an incredible deal, I was really lucky to find this.
  2. I can’t believe my luck.
  3. You feel a little nervous about the deal, but you just have to take the risk, and so you convince yourself that it’ll be O.K.
  4. You send the money, and then s/he stops communicating with you, or they begin to prevaricate, or even say they need extra money for your goods to clear Chinese customs.
  5. You received a tracking number that doesn’t work.
  6. You can’t believe what a complete and utter idiot you have been.
  7. You think, “How did I not see this coming?”
  8. You realise you did see it coming, but decided to ignore your own instinct because you thought that if it is real you will have found a great supplier at a great price.
  9. You’ve lost your money!
  10. You suffer a huge amount of personal pain, grief, humiliation, a deep sense of shame, and a sensation akin to having been raped.

You can save yourself a lot of heartache, misery, embarrassment, and personal shame by performing necessary Due Diligence before transferring any monies.

Otherwise, you may just find you’ve given away a lot of money, with little effort, to a stranger you’ll never trace on your own.

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Safely Sourcing China Open New Business Directory

Wednesday, February 24th, 2010

Join The Safely Sourcing China Business Directory.

The Safely Sourcing China Business Directory

The Safely Sourcing China Business Directory

The Safely Sourcing China blog has opened a new service, and which is designed to assist those companies in the West wishing to trade with China, and those companies in China wishing to trade with the West, with a forum for coming together to assist and meet each others’ business needs and requirements.

Since membership is free, it costs you and your business nothing, except a minute of your time to complete the data input, to have your admission reviewed and included in the Safely Sourcing China Business Directory, providing you  and prospective clients with a link  back to your company website, email address, and telephone number .

The basic idea behind the Safely Sourcing China Business Directory is to bring entrepreneurs, and small, medium, and large businesses, with a specific interest in China Trade and Sourcing, a means of advertising themselves, and their services for free, in contrast to the many paid inclusion services available on the internet today.

Moreover, it also provides those companies who register in the Safely Sourcing China Business Directory the opportunity to generate a healthy, non-black-hat, back-link to their respective business or corporate websites, and which will assist them in raising their web presence, and consequently their Google page ranking.

The Safely Sourcing China Business Directory is not a free for all, and will be moderated; therefore, if you have the idea of spamming the directory with your inapplicable or non-relevant data and links, your IP will simply be blocked from further access to the blog, and your listing request deleted without ever being posted in the first instance.

That being said, we look forward to the many genuine Chinese and foreign companies wishing to post their details with us in the spirit of co-operation.

Links:

Registration Page.

Directory Page.

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Games Consoles, XBOX, iPhone Products From China

Wednesday, February 24th, 2010

China – Games Consoles And The Scam

More than a few people have discussed XBOX and Games Consoles, and I’ve often been asked about sourcing them.

I’d like to make specific mention of this issue briefly here.

The Parallel or Grey Importing of Goods.

Scammers Love You, Because You Love This!

Scammers Love You, Because You Love This!

I’ll talk about parallel or grey importing using computers as an example first, and then follow on to briefly discuss games consoles and Xboxes.

Brand name electrical goods and computers CAN be found here in China.

However, when you start trying to take them from China (or anywhere else) into other countries, then you fall into an area known as parallel or grey importing. Many companies are now really cracking down on this, particularly SONY™ for instance, in co-operation with the EU, there has a been a dramatic increase in seizures of goods at ports.

Scammers Love Your Money - And You Love To Give It To Them!

Scammers Love Your Money - And You Love To Give It To Them!

The parallel or grey market is the trade of something legal through unofficial, unauthorized, and usually unintended distribution channels.

For example: To export anything made by Dell™ in China, to the US, would be considered by Dell™ US to be poaching on their territory.

Sometimes the practice of parallel or grey importing is illegal, but not always so.

Many of the parties concerned with the parallel or grey importing of a good are usually the authorized agents or importers, or other retailers of an item in the target market. More often than not this is the national subsidiary of the manufacturer, or one of its related companies. In response to the ensuing damage to both their profits and their reputation, many manufacturers, and their official distribution chains will very often seek to restrict the parallel or grey market.

Such responses can breach competition law, particularly within the European Union.

Competition law, in the United States is known as antitrust law.

Refusal to Honour Warranties

Manufacturers have the right to refuse to honour the warranty of an item purchased from parallel or grey market sources, on the grounds that the higher price you should have paid on the non-grey market reflects a higher level of expected service.

To The Scammer, 'You' Are The 'Apple' of Their Eyes!

To The Scammer, 'You' Are The 'Apple' of Their Eyes!

Additionally, companies may provide the warranty service only from the manufacturer’s subsidiary only from within the intended country of import, and not in the diverted third country to where the parallel or grey goods are ultimately sold by the unauthorised distributor or retailer.

Are you prepared to make money at any cost?

Are you the kind of person who’d sell grey or parallel goods to someone, irrespective of the effective lack of any genuine warranty on those goods?

Do you not care about the end user, your client, and your own reputation?

Because, if your answer is ‘yes‘ to the first two questions, and ‘no‘ to the third one, then I really don’t see much difference between you and the scammers.

In my opinion, if you’re buying grey or parallel, then you’re obviously a bit shady yourself.

The response by scammers to the grey market is particularly evident in the electronic goods market, where I hear people crying loudly at having been ripped and burned regularly!

Have You Got Money To Burn?

Have You Got Money To Burn?

Yes, it seems to be the people endeavouring to buy games and game consoles, along with iPhones etc., who are the one’s who get burned most frequently by the scammers.

Just by virtue of wanting these goods grey or parallel, you put yourself at the scammers table, and if you’re unlucky (which you most probably will be) you’ll find yourself on a scammers dinner plate too.

If that’s you, or you’re thinking about entering this line of business, then I suggest you find another product line to trade in, one that you can get direct from a good OEM/ODM in China.

Remember, the scammers love those who love to buy grey!

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Quick Checklist – How To Spot A Scam

Wednesday, February 24th, 2010

Quick Checklist For How To Spot A Chinese Scam Site.

The following six red rags are simply a list of indicators, which in isolated terms, may or may not mean anything; however, when found all together, should ring some alarm bells. As with anything in business or life, the whole is greater than the sum of its’ parts.

1. The Site.

The website has an absence of any Chinese version for its’ own pages.

This means they’re targeting only one group of prospects – foreigners.

That is to say, people who will not stand a hope in hell’s chance of chasing them up after the bolt is shot.

In my experience, companies in China that have Chinese and English versions of their pages are usually genuine, as they’re making themselves accessible to the home market too; particularly for companies dealing in electronics, phones, and computers.

An absence of such, may, but not always, indicate a potential scam site.

O.K. our website only has English, but we deal with requests from foreigners, and we seek-out suppliers. Suppliers seldom seek us out; although, we occasionally have a Chinese company approach us with an offer and  an introduction.

2. Contact Information.

All the email addresses are ‘Hotmail‘ or ‘Yahoo‘; there is a distinct absence of a company email address.

This in and of itself doesn’t carry too much weight, as many genuine Chinese companies operate with private email addresses.

However, it is a common enough marker amongst the scammers.

You can also try running a quick check on the company’s name and address, via the online English language page of the Yellow Pages for China, found at: www.yp.net.cn/english/.

If they have no listing, then there’s a good chance they aren’t a genuine company; either that, or they’re a SOHO (Small Office Home Office), and use their home as an office, as they usually never come face-to-face with clients, and have no need of an office as such.

However, this wouldn’t usually be the case for a technology company, as they’d normally have to have an official office, and storage facilities out of mere necessity.

3. Company Registration Number.

Of course, as a legally registered business entity, they’d need to have a business registration number.

When once you have that number, you can go to the following Ministry of Commerce (MOFCOM) page, for contact details of the Local Administrations office, and try to get the data for the government business registration office in the city, and the province where they claim to be registered. You can then email, fax, or phone requesting to know if this number matches a genuine business.

MOFCOM Local Administration Contact Page: http://english.mofcom.gov.cn/aarticle/topic/chinainvest/localguide/200702/20070204378447.html.

Sadly however, the Ministry’s own website is very poorly put together, as you yourself will note upon visiting it, and a search for the contact data for the appropriate office may not actually work; neither does the page display correctly. I have informed the Ministry of this fault, as have others, but to no avail.

This is something I’m in the process of changing by putting together my own listing, and which I shall make available to registered users of Safely Sourcing China, and collated on a provincial, and city level.

The inaction of the Ministry to properly display this data, and its’ accompanying suspicion which is cast upon the Ministry itself, seems to have escaped them.

4. Unbeatable Offer.

This one is a complete no-brainer; if the price seems to good to be true – then it’s a scam.

5. Payment.

Ask if the company will accept an L/C (Letter of Credit); if they only take Western Union, PayPal, and the likes, then they’re more than likely a scammer.

6. IP Check.

Run an IP address check on the company and see how many other web addresses they have registered to them.

Personally I’ve come across guys with upwards of 2 or 3 hundred websites connected to them as the registrant.

Go here and type the web address, MINUS the WWW bit, into the box: whois.domaintools.com/.

This last one is a definite NO-NO. If you see they’re registered to a cartload of websites, just turn your back, shake the dust from your sandals, and leave.

And that’s about it for your basic checks; more to come in the future.

Trade Safely!

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