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The China CEO Gift-Giving Scam

Wednesday, July 14th, 2010

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I was recently contacted by Eric Vermaas, the CEO of PT Team Wood (www.teamwood.org), a Dutch-Indonesian timber and furniture partnership based in Jakarta, to run a background check on an Import Export company based in Tianjin, China, and which had just placed an order for $915,000 USD in speciality wood furnishings. Fortunately, for Eric I just happened to be in Tianjin at the time, as I was visiting family for the Mid-Autumn Festival, one of the two main traditional festivals along with Chinese New Year, and therefore checking them out was a fairly simple process for me. The Chinese company details are as follows: Tianjin Tanbo Import & Export Trade Co., Ltd., Address: 43 Nanjing Road, Heping District, 300350, Tianjin, China Web: www.sjzdingsheng.com.cn Tel: + 86 228 143 92 09 Fax: + 86 400 67 61 100 ext 1010 Email: heiyexingguang8@126.com, tanbo_2003@yeah.net Trade Manager: Chen Jinliang I quickly discovered that telephone number is not a land line, and is actually a mobile number known as a xiao ling tong, and which looks like a land-line number, can’t be easily traced, and is very cheap to buy. The fax number isn’t in Tianjin and seems to be out of town, and is perhaps a fax service somewhere, hence the extension number; quite probably a big room in a cheap building with a number of fax machines in it – linked to a PBX if the extension number is anything to go by. I visited the address provided on the website and discovered that it doesn’t actually exist. Basically the numbers on that street jump from number 35 to number 57 Nanjing Road, with nothing but an abandoned construction site between these two numbers, and therefore no sign of number 43. Of course, all of this seemed somewhat suspicious at best, particularly more so since I further determined that they allegedly scammed a businessperson from Europe out of 8,000 Euros on or about the 22nd or 23rd of September 2009 (you can find the details here), and have also placed large orders with several other companies, in one case up to $600,000 USD in value, and all since the 31st August 2009. I further discovered that Tianjin Tanbo Import & Export Trade Co., Ltd., also operate under the name of Hebei Dingsheng Import & Export Company, and have the same non-existent address. In consequence to all of the above I strongly advised PT Team Wood to have nothing whatsoever to do with this “company“. Tianjin Tanbo also failed to respond to my repeated phone calls or emails. Particularly when once they realised they had Chinese speakers, currently resident in China, on their tails. The only call we had, and which I instigated, was brief, and led to their prevarication and a lot of stuttering, particularly when I asked for their address, and they said it was the same as the website – to which I responded that I’d been to visit the location, and it didn’t exist. Whereupon they responded that they’d just recently moved. How convenient and how odd they’d forgotten to mention this when first asked, or even to update their website. Finally, I asked them to have a senior executive call me back, and have had no response in the three days since that call – and neither do I expect one.

The CEO Gift Scam Works in the Following Manner:

1. The scammer places a large order with you. 2. They then invite you to China to finalise the contract. 3. When you arrive, they will tell you that in traditional Chinese business culture you should buy the CEO a gift commensurate with his position. This in the case of the last person I found scammed by them was for gold bars worth 8,000 Euros. 4. After you have signed the contract and returned home, they then contact you again and tell you the contracts must be translated and stamped and sealed by a notary, and that the fee for this is 1,350 Euros or something of the type. 5. If you pay that then the next step would be for them to cease contact with you, as they are in no way interested in a purchase.

Gift-Giving In China

Gift-giving in China is common in business, but a bottle of wine or a treat from your own country is usually more than acceptable, and I know of no CEO who would expect me to buy them anything expensive. Moreover, since you are a foreigner you’re usually expected to be ignorant of gift-giving in China, and so are exempt from this. Most gifts between Chinese businessmen are cigarettes, Chinese white spirits (baijiu – a strong clear alcohol), or a good tea; certainly never in the form of gold bars, unless you have plans on bribing your way into a contract. In conclusion, and as a rule of thumb, you should never feel obliged to buy anybody any kind of gift in China during the pursuance of your business interactions. However, out of politeness, a small gift of not-too-great an expense from your own country or culture will be gratefully received and appreciated. Safe Trading!

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SafelySourcingChina.Com Is Launched

Thursday, July 8th, 2010

The More Things Change, The More They Stay The Same – When Is A Blog Not A Blog?

Well, I decided that although I like the look of the blog here at yourchinatradingpartner.com/blog, and that WordPress has a great deal to say for itself, as a very manageable blogging tool; I just felt it was a wee bit slow. I mean, you come to the YourChinaTradingPartner.Com page, and you get a very nice fast load. However, when you drop down a directory into the blog, I found it to very often take a monumentally long time to load the page, and it was driving me nuts. So, to solve the problem, and generate a lot of new work for myself, I built an HTML version of the blog, and slapped it on its’ own host at www.SafelySourcingChina.com. Of course, this has presented me, the novice, with certain issues, such as how to make an RSS feed of my new HTML version of the blog. However, after a little searching I managed to find a way of doing it which suits me down to the ground. Indeed, once I’d organised my RSS, I then went and tried feeding it to FeedBurner, and it went through far more smoothly than the horror story that was my feeds, here on the blog, just a week ago, when i had to hire someone to sort it out for me. CLICK! and I was done. I couldn’t believe how easy it was. I’ll continue to post here, but I’ll also post the material on the new blog too, for those who prefer a speedier, if less glossy, access portal to my stuff. If anyone’s interested in how to set up an RSS feed for their blog, then I suggest you simply go where I went, and all will be made clear. Here’s the link: rapidfeeds.com By the way, I just tried putting the annimated feed link bar in here from FeedBurner, but WordPress just wouldn’t have it, and I’ve had to rewrite, and delete this article 4 times to try and dump the scramble of code left here. I like the UTILITY of WordPress, but I prefer the ease and speed of HTML. For me, WordPress has presented me with a number of issues, a few of which are still unresolved. That’s it for now, folks. UPDATE I managed to get an HTML blog sorted quite nicely, but found updating feeds to be a bit of a drag, and so finally decided to move the WordPress version of the blog here, as you can now see, and have probably noted.

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A Comprehensive Source of China Links

Wednesday, July 7th, 2010

Possibly The Most Comprehensive Listing Of China Governmental And Non-Governmental Info-Sources.

When embarking on trading with China, both you and your company need as much top-level information as possible, and it should be equally wide in scope and readily available at the click of a mouse at any time, day or night. And that’s where a small family-run product sourcing and due diligence company in Beijing, are seemingly outstripping their larger competitors, by presenting quite possibly one of the most comprehensive sources of information and links to Chinese governmental and non-governmental information sites of interest and information, with particular emphasis on due diligence and trading safely with China; all readily available in one place, and at the click of the mouse, for foreign businesses, traders, and entrepreneurs on the internet.

YCTP China Trading Links

YCTP China Trading Links

This small company is saving a lot of people a lot of hard footslogging, or better said – key tapping – by opening to the public their own carefully garnered resources to the public domain. Indeed, they even outstrip companies such as Alibaba with the comprehensive and ‘all-in-one-place’ format of their links – literally at your fingertips. Indeed, there are many pages offering information on the internet regarding product sourcing, due diligence, background checking, and lodging formal complaints with governmental or voluntary agencies. However, few sites offer such a broad and comprehensive range of informational links to relevant and pertinent Chinese authorities and government sanctioned trade and commerce sites, where you can find connections to genuine Chinese businesses who have registered themselves with governmental authorities. This in and of itself doesn’t necessarily make these businesses one-hundred percent genuine or risk-free. However, it certainly does minimise the risk of being scammed. Sectional headings on the links page at www.yourchinatradingpartner.com include – China Business Resources: the links in this section cover a variety of journals and blogs appertaining to trading with China and are replete with useful information, inside tips, news, data, and current trends. In the China Government Business resources section there are a string of excellent links to The Ministry of Commerce to the Peoples Republic of China (national) and its’ associated forums and complaints sections. In the Invest in China – Government Website section you can confirm the validity, or determine whether a company is legally registered in China. However, it currently only deals with those companies who have joined voluntarily and/or are foreign/Sino joint ventures. In The Local Administration for Industry and Commerce Section you can check local branches of The Ministry of Commerce to the Peoples Republic of China to determine the validity of a business and whether or not it is a legally registered entity. Other sections include links to the Bureau of Fair Trade for Imports and Exports, Department of Foreign Investment Administration, and the World Importers Net (Ministry of Commerce PRC), which is a trade promotion website under MOFCOM Public Information Service (MPIS), aiming at promoting international trade by providing both Chinese and overseas companies with trade information. It is an important part of the China national public information service system for international trade and economic cooperation, and is funded by the Chinese government; all services provided are free of charge. Further very useful sites linked to by YCTP are the Department of Foreign Trade, China Customs & Excise, and The Mediation Centre of the China Council for the Promotion of International Trade; where if something goes wrong with your transaction, and you have already tried to contact your Chinese business partner to resolve the issue without success, then you can refer your case to arbitration. Another interesting and useful link is to the Trademark Office – State Administration for Industry and Commerce (CTMO); which department performs the registration and administration of trademarks nationwide.

CIETAC is now one of the busiest arbitration centres in the world.

CIETAC is now one of the busiest arbitration centres in the world.

Another immensely useful site is The China International Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission (CIETAC) which is the most important and permanent arbitration institution in China. Formerly known as the Foreign Trade Arbitration Commission, the CIETAC was set up in April 1956 under the China Council for the Promotion of International Trade (CCPIT) to meet the needs of the continuing development of China’s economic and trade relations with foreign countries after the adoption of the “reform and opening-up” policy, the Foreign Trade Arbitration Commission was renamed as the Foreign Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission in 1980, and then finally settled down as the China International Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission in 1988. Since 2000, the CIETAC is also known as the Arbitration Court of the China Chamber of International Commerce (CCOIC). The CIETAC independently and impartially resolves economic and trade disputes by means of arbitration and conciliation (mediation). The CIETAC’s headquarters is located in Beijing with two sub-commissions in Shanghai and Shenzhen, respectively known as the CIETAC Shanghai Sub-Commission and the CIETAC South China Sub-Commission. In order to meet the needs of the development of the arbitration practices, the CIETAC also successively established 19 liaison offices in different regions and specific business sectors to provide parties with handy arbitration advice. After nearly 50 years of continuous endeavour, the CIETAC is now one of the busiest arbitration centres in the world. With its arbitration practices and academic activities, the CIETAC has also made great contributions to the legislation of the Chinese arbitration law and the development of the arbitration practice in China. Not only does CIETAC maintain positive relations and cooperation with all the major arbitration institutions throughout the world, it also upholds a respectable reputation at home and abroad for its independence, impartiality and efficiency. YCTP also include an introduction to CHINA – THE LAW; which although not exhaustive does direct readers to General Principals of the Civil Law of the People’s Republic of China, Model Arbitration Clause for Contracts with Chinese Companies, and The Ministry of Public Security of the P. R. China Information Network & Security, which deals more specifically with cyber-fraud, or cyber-crime. Additional links included are those for government run or sanctioned trade links and resources, such as: China Commodity Net (CCN), which is funded by the Chinese government. China Commodity Net (CCN) is one of MOFCOM’s Public Information Service (MPIS) projects. As an important part of China national public information service system for international trade and economic co-operation, CCN aims to enhance cooperation and trade between the Chinese and overseas enterprises. Other trade links include BizMatching – A government run and approved (Ministry of Commerce) trade portal, and China Market; this is a business portal recommended by the Chinese government. In all, Your China Trading Partner provide a fascinating, deeply informative, and educational collection of links, which will prove to be an extremely valuable resource for any company, large or small, or any individual wishing to trade securely and successfully with China.

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Some B2B Facts About China

Wednesday, July 7th, 2010

I recently came across this extract in a white paper written by Dr. Daniel Park, Associate Consultant – International Projects at B2B International, entitled “How to Research & Evaluate Outsourcing Opportunities in China“, and which I thought nicely encapsulated some useful and interesting facts about China, and its’ economic development. I recommend you go and read the complete article for yourselves. Please, see the link at the foot of this posting for directions to the article itself. Now, the article was written in 2007, but much of the data holds true today, and it’s worth noting that many of these data have now exceeded the 2007 levels. Moreover, the fact that China had massive USD reserves has been something of a saviour since the global credit crisis, as China has been able to bail out many who were beset by financial difficulties due to the crisis. Here are the main points Dr. Park made, although the article is far more extensive than this short extract:

  • China is the world’s fastest-growing major economy – around 9% per year sustained over the past few years.
  • China is the world’s third-largest trading economy – US$ 1000 billion per year in foreign trade value.
  • The technological level of the Chinese economy is rising rapidly – Chinese growth is NOT based exclusively on utilization of cheap labour.
  • China’s foreign exchange reserves exceed US$ 500 billion.
  • China is fully accustomed to trading in world currencies – this is one reason why its dollar (and other hard currency) reserves are healthy.
  • China is a member of the World Trade Organization.
  • China’s population of 1.3 billion is becoming increasingly affluent.
  • China has put a man in space; is a significant nuclear power; and some parts of its manufacturing industry compare favourably with the best in the world.
  • China is the biggest spender on research and development after the United States and Japan.
  • New foreign direct investment is running at about US$ 50 billion per year and is growing.
  • Chinese expenditure on overseas mergers and acquisitions topped US$ 2 billion in 2003 and looks set to reach US$ 4 billion in 2007.
  • China is taking steps to end the fixed relationship with the dollar and to allow exchange rates and interest rates to become market-determined.

Daniel Park, March 2007

Copyright © J D Park 2007

About the author

Dr. Daniel Park qualified in economics at the University of Glasgow.  He has been associated with B2B International Ltd since its foundation, and has acted as adviser and consultant in many of the company’s international projects.  Since his first visit to South-East Asia in 1978 he has made over 60 business visits to Hong Kong/China.  Between 2004 and 2006 he served as a non-executive director of a major Hong Kong manufacturing company with facilities in China, employing some five thousand people and operating at 6-sigma standards for world markets. Source: www.b2binternational.com

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China – The New Electronic Goods Workshop Of The World

Tuesday, July 6th, 2010

China has rapidly become known as the world’s largest manufacturer of consumer electronics. Currently China produces more MP3 and 4 players, digital video cameras, digital photographic cameras, DVD and other video players, a vast array of electronic gadgets, and an extremely wide array of other high tech products, than can be found being produced in any other country in the world today.

Indeed, it wouldn’t be going too far to call China the “New Workshop of the World”, a role once filled by the UK during the industrial revolution, and now being successfully filled by China in it’s modernisation and technological revolution.

To that end there should be a question on the lips of every business person operating in any field which necessitates the need to purchase and sell any of the above listed product types.

What is that question?

It is this: How can I successfully and safely source these products from China to benefit my business by lower costs, and simultaneously increasing my profits?

If you haven’t asked yourself this question, then you are seriously missing out on a great opportunity.

Never The Leader, Always The Follower

China currently produces products of which you are seriously unaware, and which others will lead into Western markets in the future, due in large part to their foresight, and your failure to participate in the search for new products for your market.

You, along with the vast majority of SMEs, will have the unenviable task of jumping on another bandwagon, and playing catch-up.

Get ahead of the competition, and stop riding on other peoples’ coat tails.

What has happened to the world of sales in the past 30 years?

Honestly, it’s like everybody simply waits for a new occurrence in the market, and then jumps on it, rides it till they’ve ridden it to death, and then sit on their hands and wait for the next trend to come along.

Wimps!

There seem to be very few gutsy people in sales today. However, those there are, those who start the trends, are the ones who profit most, whilst the rest of you come and pick and fight over the scraps.

Get a grip people!

Use your brain, and a sourcing agent, and find yourself the next hottest thing to hit the market, before it hits the market!

Product sourcing agents in China speak English, and very often are native English speakers who’ve been living and working in China for a number of years, such as myself, and we can help you find what you need. Having us look for you costs nothing. When you choose to order you’ll find the same standard of service you’re used to at home in Europe or the US.

But What About Shipping?

And? What about it? UPS and DHL can handle all the logistics of bringing your goods to your door. Open a company account with them, give the account number to your agent, your agent passes it on to the supplier, the supplier contacts the courier, the courier arrives and picks up the goods, and you pay the shipping costs.

Of course, if you’re ordering in volume, then we can assist you in finding a suitable shipping company (air or sea) to handle your goods for you.

That’s it. Done and dusted!

What about MOQs?

What about them? Yes, there is often a minimum order quantity, but many companies have brought down their MOQs to levels that are very acceptable for SMEs; particularly in the fields of electronic goods – many as low as 20 pieces or even less.

What About Payment?

Well, I certainly don’t advocate the use of PayPal or Western Union, as these are the tools of the devil (scammers).

No, you can use a Letter of Credit (L/C), or a TT; the former will be agreed to by any good business of sound standing, whilst the latter may be used only after having the company visited, and having due diligence performed on them, to ensure that they’re actually who they say they are.

Of course, the obvious point is never to pay money into a personal account when dealing with a manufacturing business. That’s just silly.

As your relationship with your agent and suppliers develops, you can rest easy and know that you are in the hands of people whose business relies heavily on your goodwill and peace of mind.

Now, stop sitting on your hands like a baby, and get out there and source the market for something new and innovative, and which will allow you to start a trend, set a fashion, break a market, and lead the way to wider profits and renown for yourself and your company.

Trade Safely!

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Ever Wanted To Have Your Own Brand?

Monday, July 5th, 2010

Why Not Have Your Own Brand?

It May Be Easier and Much Cheaper Than You Think.

Dell™, along with a number of  other brand names, buy bare-bones systems, which have been manufactured in China; then they simply tart them up a little, slap their brand label on them, and now you have a Dell computer.

You Could Have Your Brand Name On The TongFang S30-i

You Could Have Your Brand Name On The TongFang S30-i

In fact, some statistics say that 80% of all the world’s laptops and notebooks are manufactured here in China by a handful of OEM or ODM companies, who simply brand the cases for those large known foreign buyers who sell those brands to us on our high streets. One OEM, Quanta™, for example, has made portables for Dell™, Gateway™ and Apple™, amongst others, as far as I understand it. Another example would be Inventec™, probably being the biggest server ODMs, and one of the top 4 Notebook makers worldwide. Inventec 08’ revenue reached 10 billion dollars. But most of you probably haven’t ever heard of either Quanta™ or Inventec™, have you? So, why not have your own brand made, using the same suppliers, and at the same quality? There are many smaller OEMs or ODMs you’ve never heard of and who produce excellent quality goods, as Quanta™ and Inventec™ will only take large orders, and much of their capacity is taken up in the production of machines for the big brands. We have a very nice contact with a company here in China, and who have produced for Elonex™ in the UK; you know, those guys who claim to make the cheapest laptops or notepads on the UK market.

Superb Computing Power With Lovely Sleek Lines

Superb Computing Power With Lovely Sleek Lines

Not to mention TsingHua TongFang (THTF), for which I am their African, European, and North American agent. Many of the THTF products range have specifications and applications which even exceed those of companies such as Dell™, and all you need do is buy enough to have your name branded onto them. The MOQ (Minimum Order Quantity) to have your own brand will depend on the OEM/ODM; it can be as little as 500 machines, and so may cost you far less to do so than you could imagine. We can help you find one of these OEM or ODM companies to produce the goods you require, at the quality and specifications you require, at less than the cost of many of the big brand names. If that’s your bag. All of the ove is true for laptops, netbooks, notebooks, UMPC, USB memory sticks, and mobile telephones; not to mention every other product you can think of from can openers to clothes. The following is an example of the specifications to which you could have your own brand made. And in this example I’m going to be using a TongFang computer – the S30 i, being the latest addition to the TongFang PC range; although I have access to several other OEM/ODM companies here in China. The S30-i is a top end model, but I’ll be illustrating it in its’ basic configuration, and will include the price and MOQ after the specifications. These machines are superbly crafted, well designed, and manufactured to all the known standards you’d expect in any high quality product of this kind.

TongFang S30 i

Intel® Processor ULV 723 (1.2GHz, 1MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB, 45nm, 10W) Screen Size and Dimension: 13.3? Wide Screen Glare + Ultra-Thin (3.3mm) WXGA TFT (1280×800) Chipset: Intel GS45+ICH9-M Graphics: Integrated Intel GMA X4500MHD – Shared 256 MB Video Memory RAM: DDRII 1GB HDD: 160G DVD: DVD Super Multi (Ultra-Thin: 9.5mm) Network: 10/100/1000 Mbps LAN W-Lan: Intel Mini PCI-E 802.11 AGN Card Reader: (MS/MS pro/SD/MMC) 4 in 1 Card Reader Camera: 1.3 Mega Pixel Video Camera Battery: 6-cored Intelligent Lithium Battery Dimensions: 322 (W) x 239 (D) x 17~25 (H) mm Weight: 1.4 Kg (3.087 lbs) (Battery Included) The S30 i comes with built-in Biometric Fingerprint and Facial Recognition, and is presented in a Ultra-Slim Magnesium Alloy Case. All as standard. MOQ: 2,000 UNITS FOB (ShenZhen) Price Per Unit: $ 449 USD Sample Price: $ 525 USD Packing Dimensions/Gross Weight: L 425 x W 165 x H 350 mm / 4Kg Sets per Container Size: 920 sets/20′ 2,280 sets/40′ 2,652 sets/40′ HQ

Actually, It's My Own Brand. How Do You Like It?

Actually, It's My Own Brand. How Do You Like It?

Now, that’s a top of the range product, with an excellent street value potential, which could have your company name on it. Of course, their are cheaper models, and alternative models available from THTF, or any of the other OEM/ODMs I’m in contact with. So, think about it. If you wanted you could have any quality product, not just computers, with YOUR OWN BRAND on it. You can download the current pricing and MOQs (Minimum Order Quantity) for THTF computers here.

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Trading Safely With China

Sunday, July 4th, 2010

How To Trade Safely With China.

You want to trade with China, but you don’t feel safe. So what’s new? Trading with China can be a very profitable way to do business, particularly for the small business or entrepreneur.

Beware Of The Dragon In The Machine!

Beware Of The Dragon In The Machine!

However, the safety of your transaction, and the possibility that you may, sooner rather than later, be a victim of cyber-fraud should be something which worries you very much, as is evidenced by the rise of cyber-fraud between China and the west in recent years. This eventuality is evident all over the internet on BBs and trade-sites where people are lodging their impotent complaints of having lost to the cheats of China. There are, however, steps you can take to ensure the safety of your transactions, and to seriously mitigate your risk. The following information could help you save your investment, heartache, stress, and the personal shame and embarrassment – all of which will accompany such a loss. So, what does a Chinese scam look like? What form does it take? Well, before I go into this in any depth allow me to say that the majority of people out there attempting to trade with China seriously need to reconsider their approach in recognising or determining with whom they are dealing.

The Internet Is A Petrie Dish For Scammers!

The Internet Is A Petrie Dish For Scammers!

The one thing all of us should be aware of, is that the internet is infested with scammers in the same way that a homeless dog is infested with fleas; it’s an electronic Petri dish which breeds scammers on a vast and multitudinous scale. Indeed, it would not be short of the mark to say that the internet is the most dangerous place to perform business. Therefore, the first thing you need to understand is that the people who are going to scam you are very savvy and clever, running highly organised schemes of mass deception, which have been carefully designed and implemented to trick and mislead you. These people are professionals at what they do. And their systems become more highly tuned with every successful scam, as they learn from their experience as they go along. Over the years I’ve read a lot of hard-luck stories written by victims and posted broadly across the internet. Sadly the majority of them leave me with a “Huh?” of disbelief at their naiveté. Here’s what the scammer knows:

  1. There is always someone wanting products cheaply; even more so in the current financial climate.
  2. “If you build it, he will come” If they build a website offering incredible prices, then people will visit.
  3. If you like the incredible price you will email.
  4. S/he knows that a little polite conversation on MSN will further reel you in.
  5. They know and understand that the medium in which these frauds and deceptions take place is called the World Wide Web; and just like a real spider’s web, the spider (the scammer) patiently lies in wait for the flies (which is you).
  6. S/he knows that the law of averages is on their side, and not on yours.
  7. They know that they live in a hugely populous nation laden with heavy bureaucracy, and that chasing them up will be almost impossible for you.
  8. They know that it is easy for them to disappear, and setup the same web of deceit again elsewhere.
  9. They know and understand desperation.
  10. Lastly, they know that you want something for nothing (or at least at a ridiculously cheap price) – and so they give you nothing for something.

All of the above gives them a massive sense of self-confidence, and which in itself, provides them with more backbone than you could imagine. Here’s what you know:

  1. Wow! This is an incredible deal, I was really lucky to find this.
  2. I can’t believe my luck.
  3. You feel a little nervous about the deal, but you just have to take the risk, and so you convince yourself that it’ll be O.K.
  4. You send the money, and then s/he stops communicating with you, or they begin to prevaricate, or even say they need extra money for your goods to clear Chinese customs.
  5. You received a tracking number that doesn’t work.
  6. You can’t believe what a complete and utter idiot you have been.
  7. You think, “How did I not see this coming?”
  8. You realise you did see it coming, but decided to ignore your own instinct because you thought that if it is real you will have found a great supplier at a great price.
  9. You’ve lost your money!
  10. You suffer a huge amount of personal pain, grief, humiliation, a deep sense of shame, and a sensation akin to having been raped.

You can save yourself a lot of heartache, misery, embarrassment, and personal shame by performing necessary Due Diligence before transferring any monies. Otherwise, you may just find you’ve given away a lot of money, with little effort, to a stranger you’ll never trace on your own.

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Did You Do it To Yourself? And Are You Still Doing It?

Sunday, July 4th, 2010

Scammed or Self-Inflicted Wound?

It’s my personal opinion that many people who get themselves scammed in China, or elsewhere for that matter, do so almost willingly.

When I say “willingly“, I don’t actually mean that they say, “Hey! Mr. Scammer, please take my money from me!“ Although, when one looks at it from a certain direction, it may appear to be almost a silent agreement to such.

The Addictive Brain!

The Addictive Brain!

But, what I really mean, is that it’s reminiscent of the behaviour of a drug addict; because one knows one shouldn’t, but one nevertheless goes and does it anyway.

People usually KNOW a few things before a scammer closes on them.

1. They know that the deal is too good to be true.

Which quite frankly, in and of itself, should be ringing every alarm bell in their nervous systems.

2. They know that they are ignoring the warnings that their whole life’s experiences are sending them.

Yes, they just feel the truth of it in the seat of their pants – that something isn’t quite right. But, like the risk takers we humans are, ike the eternal optimists that we are – we persist with it and even ignore our own selves.

3. They know they should not send that money.

By this point, these people are really like junkies trying to withdraw from drugs. “I know I shouldn’t, but I just can’t help myself. I just need to do it. Just once more. I’m sure I’ll get lucky this time!“

Don't Play Russian Roulette With Your Money!

Don't Play Russian Roulette With Your Money!

We use most of our senses, to avoid being set on fire, to smell the foods we eat, and perhaps the dog poop behind the sofa; we use our ears and eyes to stop us being run over by a car or truck, as we cross the road.

But, then we go and send $ 5,000 to some girl called “Minky” on the other side of the planet!

I mean – HEY! That isn’t even a real name,; and I don’t mean a fake or false identity. I mean not real as in the same way that I don’t have “kizu-maliki-shopytoof” in my kitchen; primarily because no such thing exists, not unless by sheer fluke I’ve named a real kitchen utensil in some obscure language.

Surely the fact they can’t even get a regular name together must tell you something about the SERIOUSNESS of the people you’re dealing with.

I’m reminded of those people who call those telephone sex lines (whatever they are), and some grotesque woman is sitting there pushing Twinkies, or another brand of sweet and sticky thing, down her throat like a factory production line, weighing in at 437 lbs (at 5 feet 3), and has to walk with the aid of sticks due to her medically gross obesity, is telling you her name is “Yvette“, and that she’s tall, slim, has diplomas in dance and theatre, is wearing a black negligee, likes you much more than anybody else who calls, because you’re almost like a real friend, and that we really should meet one day, but now she’s feeling really wet for you, and would you like to….

Ahem! Well, I’m sure you get the picture.

These “victims” have a sense that it’s going to happen, but still they press on, gritting their teeth in the hopes of a win.

Now, that’s what I call optimism!

Yes, these people know it’s going to happen. If not actually GOING TO, then certainly VERY LIKELY TO.

That’s what makes the scam almost a self-inflicted wound!

We're All Gamblers In One Way Or Another!

We're All Gamblers In One Way Or Another!

Honestly, the inside of these peoples’ heads must look and sound exactly the same as that of a gambler with his last dollar – there he is standing in front of a fruit machine, and trying to decide whether to buy some food to eat, or slip it into the slot.

Of course, the decision was already made before he’d even thought of the question. Because our human sense of risk, or addiction, tends to walk about three paces in front of all other thought processes we’re experiencing.

Our sense of risk rides along like a surf board on the wave of every other thought we have. And it is because of this that our addiction will always finish ahead of everything else we think, do, taste, or feel.

It lives on the top of that wave, and everything else rests in its’ shadow.

We tell alcoholics that the first thing they need to do is understand that they HAVE A PROBLEM, before they can address it.

The same is true here.

In the same way as those guys calling on those sex lines, often the people who lose out here and elsewhere, are simply deluding themselves. They actually make the job of being a scammer easier.

Just remember this. A scam can only occur when one party wants something for nothing; all the other party is doing is giving you nothing for something.

Try to cut corners and you’ll cut your own throat.

There is no secret way; no special way; no something to which you aren’t privy.

There is simply a right way and wrong way. The first will bring you benefits, and the second will bring you misery.

You’ll simply lose the dollars, whilst trying to save the cents.

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What Can Happen If You Lose On A Deal In China?

Saturday, July 3rd, 2010

What Can You Expect To Pay For CIETAC To Arbitrate For You, Should You Lose On A Deal In China?.

So, you lost out, and were skinned and scammed by a company in China, and now you want to go to arbitration to get back what you’ve lost, as well as getting some justice from the “evil doers“, as Mr. Bush might say. So, what’s it going to cost you? Well, the following is the CIETAC fee schedule for their arbitration services, which I’ve converted, as near as possible, to the corresponding USD values. Now, remember, when you choose to go into arbitration you agree to abide by the arbitral outcome. That is to say, that should the judgement go against you then all of the following monies tabulated below, will be lost to you on-top of your actual current losses. And don’t go confusing Western Jurisprudence with that of China; it may very well go against you. Remember, this is another risk. As clearly stated beyond the main table, there may be further “…arbitration fee(s) according to this Arbitration Fee Schedule, the CIETAC or its Sub-commission may collect other extra, reasonable and actual expenses pursuant to the relevant provisions of the Arbitration Rules.” Meaning, that whatever you’re charged in the initial schedule may also include further fees levied to your account to the value of 1,500 USD per additional charge, per additional “…reasonable and actual expenses pursuant to the relevant provisions of the Arbitration Rules.” Of course, even should you win, the defendant may still hold you up by delaying payment for a variety of reasons, and causing you to resort to CIETAC again, at further expense, which you will then have to get CIETAC to levy back against the defendant. Or, of course, they may just shut up shop and disappear. This kind of tactic wouldn’t necessarily be unusual. Now, let’s just take a look at a bare-bones example, without the extra fees, and see what we’re talking about here. We’ll take the lowest level in the schedule as an example, and this is just waving the stick a little, to get an idea of how things could go. So, you lost $150,000 to a company somewhere in some province, in China. You go to CIETAC, and before anything happens (and at this point I think it only fitting to mention that there is about a 9 month backlog with CIETAC) you are charged a fee of $5,250, plus the $1,500 registration fee, which is charged at all levels. Therefore, you’re current total is now $6,750, and you’ve just finished the registration process alone. Then there will be charges for phone calls, letters, and transport costs for an examiner to visit the defendant or their place of business, hotel costs, living cost etc. So, let’s just consider transport, living, interview, and visitation costs. Let’s just call that another $3,000, and remain in the conservative area of things. That would bring you up to around the $9,750 mark. Then there’ll be the weeks and months of back and forth, hither and thither, as nothing in this vein happens either quickly or directly in China. In the meantime, you may see your charges rise by another $3,000, before you even get close to an arbitral decision; and by which time you will have shelled out, on top of your $150,000 loss, another $12,750, and you’ll be sweating and hoping it all goes your way, or else you’ve lost your initial loss of $150,000 plus another $12,750. So, are you shaking in your boots? Quivering with anger and frustration? You should be! Before I present you with the CIETAC arbitration fee schedule, allow me to tell you that there’s another way around this, and that is – PREVENTION.

Your China Trading Partner

Your China Trading Partner

Very simply, you can contact us at Your China Trading Partner, and we’ll make a factory visit, do your Due Diligence, and arrange for your goods to be checked before leaving port. For us to go visit the factory, and to have your goods checked at port before shipping, will cost you approximately another $850 to $1,000 on top of your costs; whilst of course, on our factory visit we’ll get your supplier to agree to the insertion of the CIETAC Arbitration Clause in your joint contract, and which states: “Any dispute arising from or in connection with this Contract shall be submitted to China International Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission for arbitration which shall be conducted in accordance with the Commission’s arbitration rules in effect at the time of applying for arbitration. The arbitral award is final and binding upon both parties.” And thereby, offer you a little extra protection; additionally, of course, you can include in the terms of your L/C, that monies will not be released until goods have passed random quality checking, at their exit port prior to shipping. Now, here’s a final question for you, before I introduce you to that fee schedule. Doesn’t it make a lot more sense to spend another $850 to $1,000 on top of your costs, as insurance against the nightmare of losing your investment, and then having to go to arbitration with CIETAC? I’m a little tired of hearing about all these losses, when I know that even if they can’t be completely dissolved, they can, at the very least, be seriously mitigated. But, we live in a cost-cutting global mentality, and have done since the Thatcher and Reagan years; and people are silly enough to even cut costs on their insurance and investment security. This is precisely the kind of mentality that makes dollars for the scammers, and no cents to me? Does it make cents to you? Get the pun? Now Here’s That Fee Schedule for you.

China International Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission

ARBITRATION FEE SCHEDULE (This fee schedule applies to the arbitration cases accepted under Item 1 and 2 of Article 3 of the Arbitration Rules, and becomes effective on May 1, 2005)

Amount of Claim (USD). Amount of Fee (USD).
150,000 USD or less. 3.5% of the Claimed Amount, minimum 1,500 USD.
150,000 USD to 750,000 USD. 5,000 USD plus 2.5% of the amount above 150,000 USD.
750,000 USD to 1,500,000 USD. 19,750 USD plus 1.5% of the amount above 750,000 USD.
1,500,00 USD to 7,500,000 USD. 30,700 USD plus 1% of the amount above 1,500,000 USD.
7,500,000 USD or more. 90,000 USD plus 0.5% of the amount above 7,500,000 USD.

Each case, when being accepted, shall be charged an additional amount of $1,500 as a Registration Fee which includes the expenses for examining the application for arbitration, initiating the arbitration proceedings, computerizing management and filing the documents. Where the amount of the claim is not ascertained at the time when application for arbitration is handed in, or there exists special circumstances, the amount of arbitration fee shall be determined by the secretariat of the CIETAC or its Sub-Commission. Apart from charging arbitration fee according to this Arbitration Fee Schedule, the CIETAC or its Sub-commission may collect other extra, reasonable and actual expenses pursuant to the relevant provisions of the Arbitration Rules. Safe Trading!

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