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Fantastic Steel-Framed Pre-Fabricated Modular Homes

Thursday, August 26th, 2010

Kiss Your Home’s Negative Equity Goodbye, And Make Way For Profits In The Sustainable Housing Development Industry.

The average price of a house in England and Wales stood at £178,364 as of July 2009, demonstrating a monthly drop of 0.6 per cent on June’s figures, and a comparative drop of 2 per cent on June 2007 figures. The region of the UK with the most significant annual price decrease was that of the East Midlands, and which experienced a drop of 5.1 per cent; while Wales suffered the overall largest monthly drop at 2.5 per cent. The West Midlands significantly fell too, down 1.2 per cent on the previous month’s figures. Presently, a detached house in England and Wales now costs on average £269,117, while a semi-detached home costs around £167,747, and the average price of terraced homes now stands at £139,964. You ask, “So, what has this got to do with international trade, and more specifically trade with China, and product sourcing?” Well, a lot actually. What are homeowners suffering under? Their property has lost value, and their mortgages have remained the same or risen, and now they’re faced with so much negative equity on their homes that their money paid on mortgages is just disappearing into a big black hole. You ask again, “So, what has this got to do with international trade, and more specifically trade with China, and product sourcing?” Well, it just so happens that I have a nice line on a company who produces modular prefabricated, steel-framed, earthquake-safe, eco-friendly homes in the form of large houses, villas, and bungalow villas, which have a built-time of approximately one month. They are superbly designed, look great, will blend in with your local older or modern housing, and cost very little. For construction companies, local and national governments, they’re a massive boon too, as it means that you can erect whole new estates of steel-framed, earthquake-safe, eco-friendly homes in the shortest possible time, and with low costs, but with high return on investment (ROI). Of course the other advantages for private individuals and entrepreneurs are that if you buy your own modular prefabricated, steel-framed, earthquake-safe, eco-friendly home, then immediately sell it on you should easily double or treble your investment at the minimum; and should you choose to hold on to it, and wait for the markets to recover somewhat, you stand a more than a excellent chance of making even more money out of your initial investment. These homes are really very good looking, and will easily attract buyers. Please take a look at the following photographs, before going on to pricing and other details.

Modular Prefabricated Home

Modular Prefabricated Southern Eurostyle Home

Modular Prefabricated Villa

Modular Prefabricated Plantation Style Villa

Modular Prefabricated Villa

Modular Prefabricated Villa

Modular Prefabricated Home

Modular Prefabricated Stone Gabled Home

Modular Prefabricated Villa

Modular Prefabricated Hacienda Style Villa

Modular prefabricated Home

Modular Prefabricated Porch and Lath Style Home

Modular Prefabricated Country Residence

Modular Prefabricated Victorian Stone Vicarage Style

Modular Prefabricated Home

Modular Prefabricated Gabled Home

Modular Prefabricated Home

Modular Prefabricated Stepped Home

Modular Prefabricated Georgian Style

Modular Prefabricated Georgian Style

Modular Prefabricated Tudor Style

Modular Prefabricated Tudor Style

Villa or Palace? Modern or Old?

Villa or Palace? Modern or Old?

The above shown mini-gallery represents a mere fraction of the exasperatingly wide diversity of the range available from this company. Indeed, there are even prefabricated multi-storey apartment blocks with built-in car parking facilities available.

Multi-Storey Apartment Block With Parking

Multi-Storey Apartment Block With Parking

The same company also produces Porta-Cabin structures, and for which the pricing has also been included below.

Pricing and Other Details:

1. The average cost of a Villa/Bungalow Villa is $170 up to $337 per SQM without AC or Furnishings. 2. The average cost of a porta-cabin is $80 – $120 per SQM without AC and or furnishings. 3. The average cost of a two floor porta-cabin $85 – $125 per SQM without Air Conditioning or furnishings. 4. The discount percentage price for multiple orders to be discussed on an individual basis. 5. The average construction time for a Villa is about one (1) month. 6. For an 80 SQM porta-cabin, erection time is about one week. 7. We will send 1-2 engineers to teach your workers how to build the house, the cost of which is paid by the buyer at a rate of $20 per man, per day. 8. Sinks, toilets, baths, and showers are included. 9. Our lead time for a 300 -400 SQM villa is about 20 days. 10. Our lead time for a 1000 SQM cabin is about 2 weeks. 11. We can arrange shipping of the modules. 12. Example freight costs for a 300 SQM villa is about $7,050 from China to Southampton UK. 13. Example freight costs for a 1000 SQM porta-cabin is $11,750 from China to Southampton UK. 14. The cost of Central Air Conditioning is approximately $10,000, whilst Individual Air Conditioning Units around $500 to $1000 depending upon size. The above information is for reference purposes only, as these modular homes can be detailed, expanded, and contracted to meet your own design purposes, as well as your personal utility needs. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us. All prices listed here are USD. Safe Trading! Contact Me For Further Details Email Your China Trading Partner For Further Details

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Parallel or Grey Importing And The Scammers Behind It

Tuesday, August 24th, 2010

Parallel or Grey Importing & China

Firstly, with regards to a basic explanation of Parallel  or Grey Importing, and the scam effect, allow me to direct you to an article of mine which discusses this matter in the Scams & Scammers Category of my blog; the article is entitled “Games Consoles & XBOX in China” I assume you’ve been and read it, and have now come back to continue. So let’s get to my point. Every region has its’ own official distributor(s) who are licensed and engaged to distribute for the producer into a given region. That means, that even if you were to contact the relevant distributor for the Chinese market, that distributor would not allow me to purchase from him/her with the foreknowledge that you planned on having them shipped out of China, for fear of losing that very valuable license.

Parallel or Grey Importing - Worth the Risk?

Parallel or Grey Importing - Worth the Risk?

Even if they took that risk you’d only get them at wholesale in China, and by the time you’d payed for shipping, you’d probably have them held-up at customs at your end, or even impounded or confiscated, as companies are now on the march, with government assistance, to batten down the hatches on parallel or grey importing; as is evidenced by the rate at which these actions are now taking place in EU ports. However, I don’t believe a genuine distributor would allow you to do that in the first instance. Not for a heart-beat. But that, in and of itself, isn’t the major issue – there’s more. If he/she did agree, particularly with that foreknowledge, then you would have to suspect something dodgy was going; more dodgy than your request to the licensee to parallel or grey import these products into other regions of the world, not under his or her license mandate.

Want To Risk Your Money On Parallel Or Grey Imports?

Want To Risk Your Money On Parallel Or Grey Imports?

As you are perhaps aware, or perhaps not, China has a problem, in that foreign mafia regularly send people into China masquerading as representatives of very large corporations such as the Apple and Sony Corporations, and many others. These people, then give product plans to their targeted Chinese companies and, after inspecting their factory, issue them with a fake license to produce and manufacture on behalf of these big names. The Chinese companies genuinely believe that they are licensed to do so, as these mafia are very good at there jobs and have a strong financial backing to support their claims. They’re professionals. They then go on to set up or give people (probably there own) “license” to act as “official distributors”. However, when once YOU buy these goods (because that’s what even many chain stores end up buying) and sell them on, your own prospective client may find, should a problem arise, that their product identification codes do not coincide with those on the company database, and will be left without warranty, on a product that is a clone; and so will be left without recourse, but to turn back to you, who would then look back to the “distributor or licensed agent“, who in turn would have to look back to the “licensed manufactory” here. ONLY TO DISCOVER THAT YOU, AND THEMSELVES, HAVE BEEN DUPED! And that is exactly what is happening, and, morally speaking – in terms of the duty we owe to our prospective buyers, I really think you’d be better off out of it. It’s a morass. It really isn’t a fun pool to swim in. There are, however, a lot of legitimate high quality, great design, top of the range, as it were, “no-name” OEM/ODM products available, which compare technologically very well with many of the “big brands”. Anecdotaly, I have a nice little Chinese made no-name 1 GB USB memory stick I bought here in Beijing, in a tech market, about two years ago. It’s great. I was shocked to discover one day that I’d had the thing in my pocket when my trousers went into a 3 cycle wash and spin.

That’s buggered then!

That’s buggered then!

When hanging out my clothes to dry I discovered it with a yelp, thinking, “That’s buggered then”. I put in a shelf for a day or so, then picked it up and stuck it in my computer in the forlorn hope that it might just work. To my surprise, it opened up a window in the blink of an eye, as it usually did. In fact, a large number of clients have brought data on USB sticks with big brand names, and they all open slower than my little no-namer, which is Blitz fast. Anecdotes aside: My moral sense of what is right and wrong, in respect to the end user or buyer, baulks at the idea of even considering the potential risk to them as buyers, and to my personal sense of honour. Yes, some of still hold onto that old fashioned notion. Quaint, huh? For me, it has always been about the road I take, and not simply attaining the final destination, without due consideration as to how I get there. I have always wanted to arrive at, or achieve, my destinations and goals – whole, intact, and more of, NOT LESS than, a person than I when I started out on the journey or undertaking. International mafias are very pervasive and convincing. Not my cup of tea I’m afraid. The above mentioned scenarios are equally true for big brand apparel, trainers, cameras, and computers etc. “Welcome to the real.” Or…. not….

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Something You Need To Know About Us

Sunday, August 22nd, 2010

Something You Need To Know About

Your China Trading Partner.

Your China Trading Partner

Your China Trading Partner

The increased influx of emails we’ve received, from people who’ve been burnt in their China dealings, has prompted me to write the following. Here are some things you need to know about us before you contact us.

Who are we?

We are product sourcing agents, and are focused in sourcing whatever products you need, and covering a very wide scope. We have close associations with a number of Chinese companies whom we trust, and are constantly developing new relationships with new suppliers. Whatever it is that you want, we can find it, as long as it’s being produced in China. Although, we are somewhat different to other sourcing agents, because we also assist in debt recovery, and also take an active role in warning the purchasing public, of the potential dangers of self-sourcing products from such a distance; whilst at the same time, providing the purchasing public with guidelines aimed at helping them avoid the potential pitfalls of dealing with China – such as being scammed, and losing their money.

Why Should You Deal With Us?

  • Because, we are principled business people who believe in putting people before profit.
  • Because, we are the good guys who think of others before ourselves.
  • Because, we demonstrate this by having a starting commission rate of only 5%, and falling according to size of order.
  • Because, we don’t charge any commission from the Chinese side, as other agents do, and so increase YOUR costs; our aim is to try to get you the best price we can.
  • Because, of the two previous points, you have already saved a minimum of 50%, and a maximum of 150% on agency commission costs, when compared to what other agents would charge you. We prefer turnover, and customer satisfaction, by making you and the Chinese supplier happy on cost.
  • Because, we believe in business fairness, balance, and harmony in all our transactions.
  • Because business doesn’t always have to be shady and knife-in-the-back.
  • Because, we, having a far better handle on the language, can source a wider range than simply logging into Alibaba, or some such website.
  • Because, we understand business culture here, and can spot a scammer before we even go face-to-face.
  • Because, if you don’t use us, you’ll more than likely get burnt.
  • Because, if you do get yourself burnt, it better be for a large amount, because if you come to us after the event, and you’ve only lost a couple of hundred, or a couple of thousand, we just won’t be able to help you.
  • Because, we get a mountain of mail from people having lost less than $10,000 USD, on a daily basis, and we know, what you DON’T know, and that is this – you’re never going to see your money again.
  • Because, if you got burnt for an iPhone and a couple of Dell computers, we aren’t able to help you; our sympathy you have, our help, you do not.
  • Because, if your case is for more than $10,000 USD, the chances are you probably did some research and due diligence, and the company stands a chance of being ‘real’, and they’re simply chancing it with you; and that means we stand a chance of getting your money back.
  • Because, our recovery service fee, is the same as our sourcing fee – 5% of the order value.

What Are The Benefits Of Sourcing From China?

Well, generally speaking you should find that you can reduce your average costs of manufacturing by up to 30%, and even as high as 60% on European and North American manufacturers. For example: Scares aside, due to failure to quality check goods at port before leaving customs, pharmaceuticals can be produced, and synthesised in China at greatly reduced costs. In certain cases costing only 1 tenth of what the same product would cost to produce in Europe or the US. Now that’s a saving! These types of savings are par for the course for a wide range of , but not all, products in China. Well, with so many companies making money from this – Why Aren’t You?

What Quantity Are We Talking?

Well, most genuine suppliers have a Minimum Order Quantity (MOQ), which can vary, depending on product, from 3 to 3,000 pieces.

So, How Can You Avail Yourself Of Our Unique Situation?

Your problem is one of trust. You have nobody here on whom you can rely. Quite simply, you need to have a third party here in China you can trust, and to ensure that you get the goods you want, shipped to your market of choice, when you want, and at a the price you want. But China is so far away, and you don’t know the culture, the people, or the language. But you do know, that all of the aforementioned can cause you problems.

How can you resolve these issues without going to China?

Easy, develop a relationship with somebody you can trust, and allow them to handle things for you.

Connect With The Right People – Not With The Wrong People.

Allow us to be your prime contact in China. I’m a British expatriate, married to a Chinese citizen, and have been living and working here for 8 years. Quite simply, my China qualifications are way superior to yours. Take advantage of me – before someone takes advantage of YOU!

Here’s My Hand, And My Offer.

Accurately specify what it is you want, and we’ll find a source for you. We don’t charge a fee for inquiries, and you should immediately, or within a few days, be presented with a series of offers, from which you can choose what appeals best to you. If the source is new to us, and you can guarantee you want to take that offer, then we’ll go down and verify the source first, before you make the payment, at no extra cost to you, as we consider a new source to be a new RESOURCE for us. Give us the stress you just don’t need – and don’t feed the greed! Safe Trading!

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eSources Innitiate Smear Campaign Against YCTP

Saturday, August 21st, 2010

eSources Attempting To Smear Your China Trading Partner.

It has recently come to my attention that eSources.co.uk, owned by the now infamous (to many of us unfortunate enough to have had any dealings with the company or the individual) Mr. Carboni, have now attempted to smear Your China Trading Partner, quite probably due to our unflinching stance on the the truth of the issues surrounding him and his company; as well as our unwillingness to back down in the face of earlier threats for legal action. Many of you out there have already communicated to me that you have backed down under these threats, whilst many fora have removed negative comments regarding eSources out of fear of these threats. It would seem that since these threats have failed, as I have enough documentary evidence to take to any court should I be called to do so, which demonstrates the voracity of my claims, and is supported by many others out there who have lost money to eSources, that Mr. Carboni has now, as of the 19th August 2009, decided to attempt to attack my credibility by making false statements and slanderous remarks on sites such as the RipoffReport, and which you can view by clicking the link. In which short statement, and without any corroboratory evidence whatsoever, Mr. Carboni states that I have, “…committed numerous contract infringements and failed to cover his payments” None of which, strangely enough, he has ever presented to me either by email, or by telephone. And all of which I have documentary evidence for, including the fact that my bank is currently getting a reversion of funds back from his for taking money from my account when clearly not entitled to do so. I refer you to earlier articles on this site, and which you’ll find in the Scams and Scammers category. Mr. Carboni goes on to say, “We believe his behaviour is an indication of the values this person adobts in his business dealings and invite potential customers to evaluate this person’s full business practices before considering trading with him“, which sounds more of an indictment upon himself, rather than upon me or my company. I too invite you all to make the following searches of Google: “your china trading partner scam” and “yourchinatradingpartner.com scam” and finally “david kenneth stone scam“. From such a simple search you discover nothing negative about either myself or my company. Indeed, I find it interesting that Mr. Carboni also cites our full company address, albeit with a couple of minor errors, as: ChangPing Qu, HuiLongGuan, LongTengYuan 3Qu, 2HaoLou, 2DanYuan, 201 Beijing – to which you are more than welcome to pay a visit, or have someone you know, or an embassy official here, make a call to determine a suitable time to come and pay me a visit; whilst, on the other hand, Mr. Carboni uses the address of: 27 Old Gloucester Street, London – WC1N 3XX, United Kingdom, and which is a mere postal address, and little more than a PO BOX, as his company’s formal HQ address. In fact, however, should you run a Google search on “27 Old Gloucester Street, London – WC1N 3XX“, you will discover that you get 64 pages, and a grand total of 16,200 hits for that address, all with a wide diversity of companies claiming it as their UK registered office; companies as diverse as cleaners to clairvoyants. Strange that Mr. Carboni has no wish to have made public either his personal or a genuine office address. Who is hiding what from whom? It may interest you to know that the following search strings are regularly used and bring visitors to this site (visitor search percentage included): esources scam 5%. esources stefano carboni scam 3%. esources co uk scam 3%. wholesaledeals co uk scam 2% (Another of Mr. Carboni’s Companies). esources co uk 1%. wholesaledeals co uk 1%. stefano carboni  1%. stefano carboni wholesale 1%. carboni-company 1%. what do you think of wholesaledeals co uk 1%. esources co uk membership 1%. wholesaledeals uk 1%. whats wrong with esources 1%. who is registered on esources co uk 1%. e sources taking money from my account! 1%. In fact, I receive more visitors in search of  his company than for any other individual company via my website; and, as you can see, more than a few are connected with the word ‘scam‘. I have, of course, written to rippoffReport (please do take the time to visit their website and lodge any grievance you may have against eSources with them) and explained the situation, and post my email below for your edification: EMAIL BEGINS: Dear RipoffReport, Firstly, I would like to thank you for the valuable service you pose to the community in general. However, I would also like to say that your service is also being abused by known scammers to damage the reputation of honest business people who’ve made genuine complaints against those scammers. Me, for instance. Recently it has come to my attention that you posted a warning against my company Your China Trading Partner (YCTP), and which has been posted by eSources.co.uk. Article Here This company is a known scam company and regularly rips people off via the internet, and has even been involved in the fake check scams and money mules as far back as 2006. If you run a simple Google search on esources.co.uk and the owner’s name Stefano Carboni you will find a plethora of results from Fraudwatchers.org, scambusters, etc. regarding the perfidy of this company. Now, I do have a genuine grievance against this company, as I was actually ripped off by them to the tune of $ 345 USD; and indeed, it was I who first lodged a report with you when this happened, and which you have now modified to be a retaliatory response by myself. http://www.ripoffreport.com/e-trade/Stefano-Carboni-ESou/stefano-carboni-esources-co-7y5we.htm By doing so you have fallen directly into the hands of this long-time scammer, and are causing genuine harm to a genuine business. Indeed, my business is not only product sourcing, but to wheedle out scammers, and warn people away from them, as can easily be seen if you visit my blog at www.safelysourcingchina.com, and where you will find the following reports directed at eSources.co.uk, my experiences with them, and what my research has shown: Be careful when dealing with esources co uk. More on esources how dirty is their laundry? I strongly recommend that you read the above two listed articles, where you will discover enough information, external to my website, which will demonstrate clearly just who is scamming who. On the other hand you will find hundreds against Mr. Carboni and his company eSources.co.uk, some of which have been published by me, but the vast majority are in fora and on anti-scam websites scattered across both the globe and the internet. Really, it isn’t a difficult task for you to prove this to yourselves. It is a tragedy, and a travesty, that you publish such material without first having made a background check against my company or his. May I suggest that you take a moment to perform a Google search on the following three sets of terms:  Those search terms include my company name, my web address name, and my full name, plus the word scam. I assure you that you will not find one single bad word against either me or my company. I would like to say that the following search terms hit my blog, which is a new blog, in the following percentages: esources scam 5%. esources stefano carboni scam 3%. esources co uk scam 3%. wholesaledeals co uk scam 2% (Another of Mr. Carboni’s Companies). esources co uk 1%. wholesaledeals co uk 1%. stefano carboni  1%. stefano carboni wholesale 1%. carboni-company 1%. what do you think of wholesaledeals co uk 1%. esources co uk membership 1%. wholesaledeals uk 1%. whats wrong with esources 1%. who is registered on esources co uk 1%. e sources taking money from my account! 1%. One final search you may wish to carry out is to search the company address on Google, and look at the quantity, and the quality of companies registered at this very same address. 27 Old Gloucester Street London – WC1N 3XX Do the same with mine, and you will find, but one company, and no negative comments. Finally, in response to Mr. Carboni’s allegation, on Ripoffreport, that, “The owner David Kenneth has since committed numerous contract infringements and failed to cover his payments.” This is in itself a patent absurdity, as I have all my accounting data to demonstrate otherwise. Indeed, I have more than that, in as much as my bank is currently claiming back monies which Mr. Carboni’s company took from my credit card without permission, and with no right to do so, as he’d actually suspended my account several months before, and less than 14 days after receiving my payment, as the copies of his communications, which I have kept, and which I also have logged on PayPal, will attest. I refer you to my blog for full details of this particular issue: Be careful when dealing with esources co uk. RippoffReport and Your China Trading Partner, are partners in the same battle; we are allies in the field. And as such I would like to ask you to remove the revision from my first posting, and to delete Mr. Carboni’s report about my company. I am not really a litigious kind of man, and have always fought my own battles, and I really don’t want to threaten an organisation I respect with a case in court; however, I do expect you to do a minimum of research before you allow postings to be made. Dear Ripoffreport team, you have participated in a great injustice, and are now standing against an innocent party, indeed, a fellow justice seeker, and backing a company known, easily known if one simply performs a quick Google search, for defrauding people of their monies, failing to answer their calls, and hiding behind a postal drop address, rather than a genuine reachable address. I shall be publishing this letter on my blog, as will I too the fallacious and slanderous (as I can prove every word of my testimony) article and the link to it on your own website for my own readers. Kind regards, David Kenneth Stone EMAIL ENDS: I encourage all my readers to carefully follow the suggested searches above for their own piece-of-mind, and at the same time I invite anyone who has had troubled dealings with Mr. Carboni or eSources to send me their detailed information, which I will file for later use against this company and individual; below is a special email account where you can send me your details. Thank you for your time, folks! carbissue@yourchinatradingpartner.com Safe Trading!

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The China CEO Gift-Giving Scam

Saturday, August 14th, 2010

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I was recently contacted by Eric Vermaas, the CEO of PT Team Wood (www.teamwood.org), a Dutch-Indonesian timber and furniture partnership based in Jakarta, to run a background check on an Import Export company based in Tianjin, China, and which had just placed an order for $915,000 USD in speciality wood furnishings. Fortunately, for Eric I just happened to be in Tianjin at the time, as I was visiting family for the Mid-Autumn Festival, one of the two main traditional festivals along with Chinese New Year, and therefore checking them out was a fairly simple process for me. The Chinese company details are as follows: Tianjin Tanbo Import & Export Trade Co., Ltd., Address: 43 Nanjing Road, Heping District, 300350, Tianjin, China Web: www.sjzdingsheng.com.cn Tel: + 86 228 143 92 09 Fax: + 86 400 67 61 100 ext 1010 Email: heiyexingguang8@126.com, tanbo_2003@yeah.net Trade Manager: Chen Jinliang I quickly discovered that telephone number is not a land line, and is actually a mobile number known as a xiao ling tong, and which looks like a land-line number, can’t be easily traced, and is very cheap to buy. The fax number isn’t in Tianjin and seems to be out of town, and is perhaps a fax service somewhere, hence the extension number; quite probably a big room in a cheap building with a number of fax machines in it – linked to a PBX if the extension number is anything to go by. I visited the address provided on the website and discovered that it doesn’t actually exist. Basically the numbers on that street jump from number 35 to number 57 Nanjing Road, with nothing but an abandoned construction site between these two numbers, and therefore no sign of number 43. Of course, all of this seemed somewhat suspicious at best, particularly more so since I further determined that they allegedly scammed a businessperson from Europe out of 8,000 Euros on or about the 22nd or 23rd of September 2009 (you can find the details here), and have also placed large orders with several other companies, in one case up to $600,000 USD in value, and all since the 31st August 2009. I further discovered that Tianjin Tanbo Import & Export Trade Co., Ltd., also operate under the name of Hebei Dingsheng Import & Export Company, and have the same non-existent address. In consequence to all of the above I strongly advised PT Team Wood to have nothing whatsoever to do with this “company“. Tianjin Tanbo also failed to respond to my repeated phone calls or emails. Particularly when once they realised they had Chinese speakers, currently resident in China, on their tails. The only call we had, and which I instigated, was brief, and led to their prevarication and a lot of stuttering, particularly when I asked for their address, and they said it was the same as the website – to which I responded that I’d been to visit the location, and it didn’t exist. Whereupon they responded that they’d just recently moved. How convenient and how odd they’d forgotten to mention this when first asked, or even to update their website. Finally, I asked them to have a senior executive call me back, and have had no response in the three days since that call – and neither do I expect one.

The CEO Gift Scam Works in the Following Manner:

1. The scammer places a large order with you. 2. They then invite you to China to finalise the contract. 3. When you arrive, they will tell you that in traditional Chinese business culture you should buy the CEO a gift commensurate with his position. This in the case of the last person I found scammed by them was for gold bars worth 8,000 Euros. 4. After you have signed the contract and returned home, they then contact you again and tell you the contracts must be translated and stamped and sealed by a notary, and that the fee for this is 1,350 Euros or something of the type. 5. If you pay that then the next step would be for them to cease contact with you, as they are in no way interested in a purchase.

Gift-Giving In China

Gift-giving in China is common in business, but a bottle of wine or a treat from your own country is usually more than acceptable, and I know of no CEO who would expect me to buy them anything expensive. Moreover, since you are a foreigner you’re usually expected to be ignorant of gift-giving in China, and so are exempt from this. Most gifts between Chinese businessmen are cigarettes, Chinese white spirits (baijiu – a strong clear alcohol), or a good tea; certainly never in the form of gold bars, unless you have plans on bribing your way into a contract. In conclusion, and as a rule of thumb, you should never feel obliged to buy anybody any kind of gift in China during the pursuance of your business interactions. However, out of politeness, a small gift of not-too-great an expense from your own country or culture will be gratefully received and appreciated. Safe Trading!

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